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--- confidence: high related: - wiki/concepts/sparks-of-motivation.md - wiki/entities/jacob-cole.md sources: - raw/transcript.md title: Naval Ravikant type: entity visibility: public --- # Naval Ravikant Co-founder of AngelList. Investor, writer, podcaster. **Angel investor in [[IdeaFlow]]** (Jacob's company). ## Why he comes up David draws an analogy: > "Your idea about sparks, even when you first mentioned it, it sounded very, very adjacent to Naval Ravikant's idea of, as soon as inspiration strikes, you go pursue it." Jacob extends: > "I think that as soon as inspiration strikes, you add it to your idea bank of graph of inspiration, and then you have a persistent source of inspiration at any time that you can dive into. So you're operating at an even higher level of, like, Naval. Star investor, my company." Two points being made: 1. Naval has the right *intuition* about inspiration sparks 2. Jacob's [[Sparks of Motivation|sparks-into-graph]] approach is the **next move beyond** Naval's "pursue it now" — capture the spark to a persistent graph, so its **clustering with future sparks** becomes possible The "next move beyond" framing is interesting because it presents the [[IdeaFlow]] product as the **infrastructure** that makes Naval's intuition reliable rather than fragile. ## The David moment David's reaction to learning Naval invested in IdeaFlow: > "Oh really, yeah, oh wow. That is incredible." Followed by his reflection: > "There's certain individuals that, if you listen to them speak for just five minutes, you can tell that their ideas and their frameworks are just so high quality you've never seen it before. There are a couple people like that, but there are also, I think, more people than we perceive, because... I would attribute, like, you're at least greater than or equal to Naval Ravikant level of, you know, foundational thinking, but the average person doesn't know about you." David's substantive claim: Naval-level thinking is **rarer than it should be in fame, but less rare than it appears** — there are more people at this level than the public knows about, because they haven't done Naval's distribution work. ## What Naval has done in Jacob's terms Per the conversation: - **Done his own work** — Jacob mentions Naval as one of the people who has actually integrated trauma and reached high consciousness, contrasting with people like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel who Jacob reads as "speaking out of trauma" - **Made his ideas public**, which is part of how individual high-consciousness becomes population-scale wisdom > "Naval has done his work. Luke Nosek, co-founder of PayPal, has." (These are two of the small set Jacob volunteers as examples of high-leverage tech-world people who have actually done the inner integration.) ## Related - [[Sparks of Motivation]] — the concept the analogy is about - [[IdeaFlow]] — the company Naval invested in - [[Stages of Adult Development]] — the framework that explains "done his work"