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Inbox (To Process)        1

#meeting Jacob <> Ben Williams 2020-12-15        1

P0        1

P1        1

P1.5        2

P3        3

#meeting Jacob <> Ben Williams 2020-12-01        3

Top Priorities for December Alpha Launch/Share to Investors. Also Touchstones #designPrinciple        3

Detail Breakout examples (more tweaks below)        4

Action items        4

#Bug        4

#Tweak        5

Feature Funnel 1        5

#Feature        6

User Interviews        6

See also: jmbugslist.jacobcole.net •  Linear.app • Notion Product Design Discussion Logged Insights • Wendell’s List • alphausers.connectr.site • Google Doc (JM): User Profiles and Feedback Doc

Inbox (To Process)

Raw Thoughts from 2/23/21 posted to slack

#rawthoughts from tonight - POSTED ON http://productfeedback.jacobcole.net/ – Feel free to comment there?

• #tweak typing speed even slow on brand new macbook (possibly a #bigdeal?)

• can’t see date on filtered view – obscured by jump to. probably also should have date dividers on filtered view if they’re on

• caps sensitivity on tags is still throwing me off (any objections to just moving fast and breaking things and making an executive decision on a fix here, like “capitalize the same tag closest to bottom of thoughtstream”?)

• selecting halfway into a note to end of note shouldn’t automatically merge me with the next note (#tweak the following action should leave one extra linebreak, I think: https://share.getcloudapp.com/RBu4YR9K))

• Date dividers got automatically turned off with the update. I think this might confuse a few of the people I on boarded FYI. It would be great if we can persist this in the future (does anyone object to having them be on by default?)

• Also this may have already been reported but it doesn’t seem that the auto sync via  checkpointing (without refresh) works fully on mobile. When I edit some thing on desktop and have  mobile open it doesn’t show up

• Command shift down arrow select all notes which is a bit scary (as does cmd shift up)

• Dictation mysteriously not working sometimes on mobile  web

• Back button works to go back from search results but forward button doesn’t work to go forward. Also, If you go two tags deep, and then hit the back button twice, it doesn’t take you home – you have to hit it an extra time to get back home #bug. Also, what would it take to maintain scroll position? easy? hard?

More #polish I hope #quick

• change the title to “Ideaflow” from “IdeaFlow”

• maybe make the loading page allow user to start typing in the search bar and also have a blank editor that allows user to capture new thoughts, without having to wait?  (Maybe the blank editor should have placeholder text saying “Quick capture thoughts – notes are loading”?

• #shortcut to:  clear search? Also another move to bottom / top of current cell (opt-down?)

• #nitpick create new note shortcut (for now cmd+shift+k) should work even from Settings page. Can’t break that muscle memory /anywhere/! Also, can we have a link  to “pop out” the shortcuts cheat sheet somehow? Maybe into a new window? (edited)

Other

#tweak

When you click on an <> relation it should flash the matched item and scroll it Roughly the top of the page, instead of leaving it in the middle. Actually, on my fairly large 4K monitor the same seems to be not working so well on any "jump to" operation. Also need to have a multi step back button behavior after such jump operations

Question -- If the app goes off-line does it warn me it’s not going to save my stuff somehow?

cmd+up arrow (maybe twice? Maybe first jumps you to top of note?) should jump you to the top even if you have really large note database. So should create new note shortcut. The only way for me to do so right now is to click All Notes

If you create a new blank page it should probably show something in the search bar and make it clear how you can go back? Maybe pages should be called sections. Or meetings / conversations?

Where would we slide in a "hide completed todos" checkbox on Todos page?

Sort <> relations by most recent and exact string match or i can’t find them (or maybe make 2 sections of results, exact followed by inexact?)

Experiment with trailing line breaks on notes instead of just divider? More like text file         ``

Pin feature ~spencer

Bulleted lists and subbullets  ~spencer #p1.5

Meeting Notes

#meeting Jacob <> Ben Williams 2020-12-15

#Legend

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Highlight   Means transferred to Notion Product Design Discussion Logged Insights

P0

P1 – NEEDED FOR LAUNCH TO 1 ALPHA USER

on mobile web, we have duplicate hashtags (even with the same case)

we should normalize for case insensitive hashtags

Type a note with a hashtag filter on, sometimes the new note does not appear at the top (tough to replicate)

“When ‘eidetic memory deactivated’ error comes up say: ‘Don’t worry it’s already been reported.”

#tweak cmd click on tags to open link (or hover over and click "open link" like current urls) . I think just clicking is fine. https://workflowy.com and https://bear.app/ do that. (Maybe we could even make urls directly clickable? Not necessarily sure…)

#design Larger click target for clearing search criteria somehow – maybe back btn like mobile? @designer

When I try to type on my phone after the #gr, I can’t get the cursor to move there. I also can’t delete #gr. User error or bug in the app? https://share.getcloudapp.com/yAuZ8jJl ~jen tsau

#small URLs get duplicated when you copy paste an entry with a URL

Pasting URLs out, also doubles the URL in Google Docs

#small? if it's ever not going to save if your work it should warn you
-in big warning message in real time when your note isn’t going to be saved. In addition to saying “JWT web token expired”. Maybe “WARNING:

#small? Browser Back button should return you to search results after you’ve hit jump. (#future Any ideas how to make a back button evident when you’re in a standalone chrome app? Maybe top left like notion. https://share.getcloudapp.com/WnulkGNn ) #design

#small? Scroll position on jump not working all the time ends you up before or after target which isn’t useful. Jumped item should be at the top of the page? Or maybe a little bit down is ok too.
        ?possibly highlight?)  jump not working all the time/targets the wrong one

#small? Reinstate cmd/ctrl-f for normal find in page? Maybe we can take cmd+shift+f for our search?

#mobile #small?  Way to see date dividers on filtered view on mobile (unable to recreate)
Can’t click on the i button on mobile to see date

Autocomplete should not match “@

After a @ sign, if you close the autocomplete window, you cannot double click on the text that would match with the autocomplete

if you close @ you can't double click on text autocomplete https://share.getcloudapp.com/geuop26R

#small? UX Polish On #mobile Web:

-Tapping in the margins doesn’t move cursor, like a text file does
-Seemingly impossible to tap the cursor so it begins at start of doc
-Select all selects everything whereas most of the time I wanted to just select a note. Moreover I can’t deselect

-share / download  button needs to allow me to share, or at least copy vs giving me a text file. ^{<a href="#cmnt1" id="cmnt_ref1">[a]</a>}

?? #maybeDone Quick login and stay logged in on mobile

Hashtags now match literally on search e.g. #idea matches “idea”. Change this back to only matching “#idea”

User onboarding tutorial / walkthrough or at least some notes ~jm

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yFaQt5S8eMMLkp1ZdhQe4rzcJzpN78xayynAKN3DNHs/edit#heading=h.wi7pm9prck2k

Fun Quickstart Guide: Ideaflow.app Draft 2020-12-15:

When you hit “cancel” on text containing linebreaks to not split, it shouldn’t remove the linebreaks but leave them in the text

#problem if you have multiple tabs it gets out of sync in confusing ways

----------LINE OF STARTING ONBOARDING NEW USERS-----

P1.5

#tweak remove duplicate "today" date dividers? https://share.getcloudapp.com/kpuN4Yn0https://share.getcloudapp.com/kpuN4Yn0

- when the notes are loading, I wish I could hit the plus button

- when the notes are loading, I wish I could do search

iPad support

Left hand margin is not clickable (mobile) ~jm

Undo functionality (mobile) ~jm

#Mobile #tweak every reload / app opening loses cursor position on mobile

Add a way for users to give feedback on what they were doing when we throw an error on production ("eidetic memory deactivated”)

X Lag on search field – debounce

#bug https://share.getcloudapp.com/OAuWGxkg #tweak link click target is off ; also the "t" is included

X #tweak shortcut for search. maybe cmd shift f?

#tweak don't like lag time when i click on long tag - could say "loading". #designPrinciple instant response time

#design need for cmd+enter equivalent on mobile? Esp when filter is on?

Should be a scrollbar on tags

#small #tweak search option on tags/~’s/@’s. E.g. I want to be able to filter for word "principle" so I can find #taichiPrinciple

#small? #tweak “collapse note” button

Redesign the share / download notes button.

e.g. make it copy

-Old urls aren’t linkified

P1.5 - on mobile web, there is no way to create a note at the bottom or after a current note (e.g. on filtered view)

P1.5 - on mobile web, need the hashtag, mention, etc. bar at the bottom on top of the keyboard

P1.5 - with relations, it is hard to confirm them since you can only see the first line of the referenced note. Maybe should show beginning of note then … matched text? Or at least multiple lines

(#future Any ideas how to make a back button evident when you’re in a standalone chrome app? Maybe top left like notion. https://share.getcloudapp.com/WnulkGNn ) #design

Can’t scroll to see older notes

Cmd+a twice should not be limited to 500-odd notes

On paste of links by default follow with text of links? Cmd+shift+v clears

I’d like a fog over everything except the new note ~danish

- ability to search on multiple tags by clicking on one after another (like ios). Needs some design  #design

- on mobile, everytime it loads the cursor position is reset

P2

#possibly? #tweak cmd shift i pops up little separate window to capture thought without losing your place

P2 - if I edit the text of a relation, it does not reflect the current tex

- when The hashtag you're creating is a new one, it shouldn’t occur in the dropdown (alternatively, the option in the drop-down should say “Create #me”)

need to make sure that new hashtags are shown as new hashtags in the autocomplete when typing in a new hashtag

Paste in images from shift cmd+4

Paste in images from shift cmd+4

“Untagged” tag option. Also blank #

#design Try Whole page hashtags view on mobile vs overlay

It would be great if pressing the delete button at the start of a new note would delete the note ~jm

Checkboxes

Ability to actually download and cache webpages, backing them up

Experiment with search/add add at the same time?

P3

Cmd + k

Live Inbox

Italic means migrated to upper section #legend

- can't click on tag to filter

• the x inside the search is too small, need a X button

- should have @ with mention on left side and ~ with author on the right side

- cannot see the date on mobile

- on mobile, the loading time is an issue since it is not a native app

https://www.notion.so/Product-Design-Discussion-Logged-Insights-860b1c06c4f84728a31e0e5a9d9875c5

- "need to not be able to create a blank ~" ~Ben Williams

- "need to check how many notes are

Orig Inbox from Ben (Not all are P1, just notes I took from what jacob said, notes that are my own are ~Ben Williams)

- Type a note with a hashtag filter on, sometimes the new note does not appear at the top

- on mobile web, there is no way to create a note at the bottom or after a current note (e.g. on filtered view)

- on mobile web, need the hashtag, mention, etc. bar at the bottom on top of the keyboard

- on mobile web, we have duplicate hashtags

- we should normalize for case insensitive hashtags

- with relations, on mobile it is hard to confirm them

- if I edit the text of a relation

- when the notes are loading, I wish I could hit the plus button

- when the notes are loading, I wish I could do search

- can't click on tag to filter

- the x inside the search is too small, need a X button

- Fix the all notes button on the sidebar

- should have @ with mention on left side and ~ with author on the right side

- ability to search on multiple tags

- cannot see the date on mobile

- on mobile, everytime it loads the cursor position is reset

- on mobile, the loading time is an issue since it is not a native app

- "not sure when I should create a new note vs. split one" ~Ben Williams

- "need to including trailing space when another word is there on autocomplete" ~Ben Williams

- "need to not be able to create a blank ~" ~Ben Williams

- "need to check how many notes are

Plus button & other text manipulation functionality as a bar above keyboard, similar to Google Docs (mobile) ~jm

Clickable hashtags ~jm

Mobile-desktop live sync / refresh button ~jm

#meeting Jacob <> Ben Williams 2020-12-01

Top Priorities for December Alpha Launch/Share to Investors. Also Touchstones #designPrinciple

1. Make the app holistically snappy, slick, not buggy

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1. The Lowest friction knowledge capture
2. High quality text editor experience
3. Ben, Danish, Jacob & everyone use the app

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2. Gee-wow touches

Target people:

• Bill trenchard (investor, new user),
• Danish (uses Web app on desktop some, thoughtstream native app on iOS),
• Jacob  (uses Web app on desktop, thoughtstream native app on iOS) ,
• David Bieber (uses thoughtstream iOS native, Roam on desktop)
• Ali Tarraf (mgmt consultant)

Detail Breakout examples (more tweaks below)

Lowest friction knowledge capture

• Mobile

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• Quick login and stay logged in on mobile
• Bottom up autocomplete on mobile
• Bar with # and @ etc

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• Instant load time

High quality text editor experience

• iOS web app has to feel as good as native

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• No “position is undefined” errors or other
• No need for login each time
• Touch bar for # @ ~ ?

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• No typing lag
• Cursor jumps to before tag when creating tags on mobile

Ben & everyone use the new app actively

• Jacob, Danish blockers primarily around snappy/quality experience

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• Navigation / design tweaks eg clicking on hashtags to filter

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• Can’t start losing content when logged out with tiny warning of “JWT expired”

Gee-wow touches

• Inline expansion
• Import Jerry/ Mark Trexler’s Brains

Future/Defer

?never lose anything, history? – export covers this?

Offline mode

Changelog

Sort by Date

Action items

• Ben to move to prod today

Lag issues

On cmd enter, sometimes typing, delete

PLEASE IGNORE EVERYTHING AFTER HERE FOR NOW, @bat

#Bug

https://share.getcloudapp.com/NQuKRkgD

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This red bar is very nice

The teal plus button is unpleasant

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Search and Add at bottom right are Great

The back button to see tags is better than sidebar folding in on my notes

Its just a nice motion

Going elsewhere

A level up in abstraction

Whereas a sidebar coming to conceal my notes :((

The experience and button placement on web vs mobile doesnt have to be identical

Jacob Cole:

Operating on desktop, are you finding the thing usable? Or not so much?

Danish Shabbir:

On my desktop I don’t feel much desire to use it.

Idk why- I will try to consciously do it for a week

Jacob Cole:

Wow amazing

And please make it your medium to get creative with

Would you like tips on how to use it the way I use it?

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Danish Shabbir:

I already had a nice moment

I used. <> to find other things to be creative about

And I remembered my interest in learning about tea supply chain

Yes please tips

Why don’t you write up a page of tricks and tips?

Jacob Cole:

Yeah, I need to write an on boarding guide this week

Including tips and tricks

Danish Shabbir:

And just send me the tips

now 😛

And paste them into your on boarding doc

Jacob Cole:

Well, you put down a word crepitus

Maybe add #Word

I am imagine this may be obvious and you just didn’t do it

Instead of saying <> book

#book

Danish Shabbir:

<> is for connecting notes yes?

Jacob Cole:

Ya

Danish Shabbir:

# and for tagging

Jacob Cole:

Ya

Danish Shabbir:

And @ for creating entities

And ~ for attributing to entities?

Jacob Cole:

I am weird but I  instead use @ to share things with people

Like next time I talk to my mom why are all the things I am going to say to her?

*what

And then I can quickly zoom in to the context with @

I don’t think it’s necessary to obsessively tag people. Just write their names

Danish Shabbir:

why should I use tags?

to make lists of things

Things I’d remember tagged under their class

Want to remember

<span style="overflow: hidden; display: inline-block; margin: 0.00px 0.00px; border: 0.00px solid #000000; transform: rotate(0.00rad) translateZ(0px); -webkit-transform: rotate(0.00rad) translateZ(0px); width: 864.00px; height: 242.67px;"></span>

Jacob Cole:

#book #quote #restaurant

Danish Shabbir:

Jacob Cole:

In terms of just writing my own reflections, I’m really looking forward to a future “untagged”

Feature

And/or a “ blank hashtag” which means: thing is salient, but I don’t know what category it should go in right now. What I typically do for that is #Thoughtstream Or #Reflection right now

Danish Shabbir:

Cool !

Jacob Cole:

Have you started any lists, like a list of quotes or ideas?

Do you have any such lists externally? For instance A different application? We can paste them in

Danish Shabbir:

When I switch to idea flow desktop

And add a new note

I’d like a fog over everything except the new note

It breaks the flow to look at the previous thoughtstreeam

Part of the pleasure of the phone app is the red thing brings attention to the place where note is being added

And the options you have for adding that note

It is more ligned with the flow

<span style="overflow: hidden; display: inline-block; margin: 0.00px 0.00px; border: 0.00px solid #000000; transform: rotate(0.00rad) translateZ(0px); -webkit-transform: rotate(0.00rad) translateZ(0px); width: 273.90px; height: 171.50px;"></span>

My answer is 300% zoom

This is my whole screen

Ideaflow Bug Tracker

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<a href="#cmnt_ref1" id="cmnt1">[a]</a>Ben: "So what's the desired behavior here? The user should not be given a file when they click the share button? We want to change the functionality to have all notes shown in the current view copied to the clipboard instead?"

Jacob: For me that's a fine call for now I think. It will make it usable on mobile, I believe. Maybe stick this under a feature flag for further consideration if it's at all an issue

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Source: http://productfeedback.jacobcole.net
Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ETv7JrlqpoAnPLz5bw4OaIvcpZdZxgEIavWWPia-vo
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